Sports Betting at Thunderpick: Odds, Markets and Live Wagers
Set Up System 2 out of 3 Correctly
The system bet '2 out of 3' involves selecting three events, where a win is achieved if at least two of these events are correctly predicted. This structure allows for a potential payout even if one selection is incorrect, unlike a standard accumulator bet. For example, if Team A wins, Team B wins, and Team C loses, the '2 out of 3' system would still yield a return based on the two winning selections.
In contrast, a single bet requires all selections to be correct to secure any winnings. For instance, a '2 out of 3' system bet with odds of 2.00, 2.50, and 3.00 would have three possible winning combinations: selections 1 & 2, selections 1 & 3, and selections 2 & 3. Each combination is treated as an individual bet.
This flexibility means that a bettor using a '2 out of 3' system on three events with an example stake of €10 per combination (€30 total stake) could still see a profit if two of the three selections win. The specific payout would depend on the odds of the successful pairings, offering a safety net compared to a straight three-fold accumulator.
odds, markets and Live betting
3/2 payout ratio misunderstood as 1.50
A fractional odds format of 3/2 represents a profit of €3 for every €2 staked, leading to a total return of €5. This is often misinterpreted by new players who may see '3/2' and incorrectly assume the decimal equivalent is 1.50. The decimal odds for 3/2 are actually 2.50, calculated as (3 divided by 2) + 1.
When a bettor places a €10 stake on odds of 3/2, the potential payout is €25, consisting of the original €10 stake plus a profit of €15. This is a significant difference from a €10 stake at 1.50 decimal odds, which would only return €15 (€10 stake + €5 profit).
Understanding the conversion is crucial for accurate bet calculation. The British fractional format, such as 3/2, directly indicates the profit relative to the stake, whereas the European decimal format includes the stake in the total return figure. Therefore, 3/2 is equivalent to 2.50 in decimal, not 1.50.
CS2 4-7% vs Dota 2 6-10%
Counter-Strike 2 (CS2) matches on this platform typically feature a margin ranging from 4-7% in the main markets. This means that for every €100 wagered on a CS2 event, the bookmaker expects to retain between €4 and €7 on average over the long term. This margin is competitive for the esports betting landscape.
In comparison, Dota 2 matches often present a slightly higher margin, falling between 6-10% for similar market types. This indicates that while Dota 2 betting is robust, the underlying cost for the bettor, in terms of the bookmaker's advantage, can be incrementally larger. For a €100 bet on Dota 2, this could equate to €6 to €10 retained by the operator.
This difference in margins can influence a bettor's potential profitability. For example, a bettor consistently placing €100 bets on CS2 at the higher end of the margin (7%) would theoretically lose €7, whereas a similar bet on Dota 2 at the lower end of its margin (6%) would theoretically lose €6. The specific margin can fluctuate based on market popularity and the type of bet placed.
Over 2.5 Goals: Lost at 2:0
A bet on 'Over 2.5 Goals' in a football match wins if the total number of goals scored by both teams combined is three or more. This type of bet is popular due to its focus on the scoring potential of a match, rather than the specific outcome of who wins.
If a bettor places a wager on 'Over 2.5 Goals' and the final score of the match is 2-0, the bet is considered lost. This is because the total number of goals scored in the match is only two (2 goals by the winning team + 0 goals by the losing team), which is less than the required 2.5 threshold.
The '.5' in the goal line is a common betting convention designed to eliminate the possibility of a push or tie, ensuring every bet is either a win or a loss. Therefore, any scoreline that results in a total of two goals or fewer would result in a loss for an 'Over 2.5 Goals' bet, regardless of the score distribution between the teams.
ATP vs Challenger: 200 Instead of 60 Markets
Matches in top-tier ATP (Association of Tennis Professionals) tournaments on this platform typically offer a substantial range of betting markets, often reaching between 120 and 200 options per match. These markets can include winner, set scores, specific game outcomes, and various handicaps, providing depth for tennis bettors.
In contrast, matches from Challenger tournaments, which are a tier below the main ATP circuit, generally present a more limited selection of betting markets, usually ranging from 30 to 60 per match. This reduction in market variety reflects the difference in the scale and profile of the events.
This disparity in market numbers means that bettors seeking a wider array of betting angles might find more opportunities at ATP events compared to Challenger tournaments. For instance, a bettor looking for player-specific statistics or complex in-game bets might find the 120-200 markets at ATP events more accommodating than the 30-60 markets available at Challengers.
Sports, markets and margins in the betting offer
Sport
Markets per Match
Margin
Live Betting
Highlight
Basketball
150–250 Märkte pro NBA-Spiel, inklusive Spielerwetten
3–5 % bei Handicap und Über/Unter, 4–6 % Moneyline
ja
Handicap und Totals statt Siegwette
E-Sport (CS2, Dota 2, LoL)
40–120 Märkte pro Match bei großen Turnieren, 10–25 bei kleinen Events
4–7 % bei CS2-Top-Turnieren, 6–10 % bei Dota 2 und Nebenmärkten
ja
Map-Handicaps und Runden-Totals zentral
Rugby
60–120 Märkte pro Spiel der großen Ligen
5–8 % im Hauptmarkt, 8–11 % bei Versuchsschützen
ja
Handicap wichtiger als reine Siegwette
Boxen
25–50 Märkte pro Kampf
5–8 % im Siegermarkt, 9–13 % bei Rundenwetten
ja
Favoriten oft unter Quote 1,20
Formel 1
60–120 Märkte pro Rennwochenende inklusive Qualifying
3–5 % bei Fahrer-Duellen, 12–20 % bei Outrights auf den Rennsieger
ja
Duelle günstiger als Langzeitwetten
Cricket
80–150 Märkte pro Match, weniger bei T20-Ligen zweiter Reihe
5–9 % im Siegermarkt, 8–12 % bei Spielerwetten
ja
Marge hängt stark vom Format ab
Tennis
120–200 Märkte bei ATP/WTA-Matches, 30–60 bei Challenger-Turnieren
3–6 % im Siegermarkt, 6–8 % bei Satz- und Spielwetten
ja
Zwei-Weg-Markt ohne Unentschieden
Tischtennis
20–40 Märkte pro Match, meist Satz- und Punktewetten
6–10 %, live häufig über 10 %
instant
Täglich hunderte Matches, stark live-lastig
Volleyball
40–80 Märkte pro Match der Top-Ligen
5–8 % im Siegermarkt, 8–11 % bei Satzergebnissen
ja
Satzwetten und Punkte-Totals dominieren
Ice Hockey: Three-Way Market Only in Regular Time
Ice Hockey markets at this venue often focus on the three-way outcome: home win, draw, or away win within regular time. This is a common approach, with typically 80 to 150 markets available for a single NHL or DEL game. The house edge on these main markets ranges from 4% to 7%.
Beyond the standard three-way market, period-specific bets are also offered, carrying a slightly higher house edge of 7% to 10%. These secondary markets provide additional betting opportunities for those who wish to delve deeper into the game's progression. Understanding these distinctions is key to strategic wagering.
For the reader, this means that while core game outcomes are readily accessible, specialized bets like period wins come with a marginally increased cost. A focus on the main 80–150 markets for NHL/DEL games may therefore be more cost-effective for the average bettor.
10.00 EUR stake: three bet types compared
A 10.00 EUR stake on a European Handicap bet, for instance a 0:1 handicap favouring the underdog where the favourite wins by two goals, could yield 22.00 EUR if the decimal odds are 2.20. This results in a net profit of 12.00 EUR.
Alternatively, a 10.00 EUR stake on an Over/Under market, such as Over 2.5 goals at odds of 1.95, would result in a payout of 19.50 EUR if the condition is met. This offers a net win of 9.50 EUR, with bets losing if there are fewer than 3 goals.
For a Long-Term Bet (Outright) on a championship title at odds of 8.00, the same 10.00 EUR stake would return 80.00 EUR, a net profit of 70.00 EUR. However, it is important to note that these markets typically carry a higher margin, often between 12% and 20%.
What does 4/6 mean as decimal odds?
Decimal odds, such as 4/6 expressed as a decimal, would be approximately 1.67. This format is widely used and simplifies calculations for payouts. A 10.00 EUR stake at 1.67 odds would return 16.70 EUR, resulting in a net profit of 6.70 EUR.
This decimal representation directly indicates the total return for every 1 EUR staked. For example, odds of 2.00 mean a 10.00 EUR stake returns 20.00 EUR. The house edge for markets like football's 1X2 pre-match is typically between 4% and 7%.
Understanding this conversion is crucial for comparing different betting options across various sports. It allows for a clear assessment of potential returns, especially when dealing with markets that might have slightly different inherent margins, like the 3% to 6% seen in Tennis win markets.
What Doesn't Count for Both Teams to Score?
The 'Both Teams to Score' (BTTS) market typically focuses solely on whether each participating team finds the back of the net during the regulation 90 minutes of play. This means any goals scored in extra time or penalty shootouts do not usually count towards the settlement of this specific bet.
Markets such as Basketball, which do not involve goal-scoring in the traditional sense, are obviously excluded from BTTS considerations. Similarly, sports like Volleyball or Tennis, where points are scored differently, do not offer this type of betting market.
For football matches, if the final score is, for example, 1-0, the BTTS bet would lose, as only one team scored. Conversely, a 2-1 score would result in a win for BTTS bets, as both teams scored at least one goal.
Volleyball Top Leagues with 40 to 80 Markets
Top league Volleyball matches can feature an impressive array of betting options, typically ranging from 40 to 80 distinct markets. These markets offer a deep dive into the game's dynamics, allowing for varied betting strategies beyond simple match outcomes.
Within these Volleyball markets, common betting types include set results and point totals, with margins generally falling between 8% and 11%. The win market for Volleyball typically has a lower margin, usually between 5% and 8% of the stake.
For a player assessing these options, the availability of numerous markets means more opportunities to find value. However, the slightly higher margins on specific markets like set results should be factored into potential profit calculations for any wager placed.
Calculate Payout: Stake Times Odds
A stake of 10.00 EUR on a bet with odds of 1.50 would result in a payout of 15.00 EUR, calculated as 10.00 EUR multiplied by 1.50. This straightforward multiplication forms the basis of all winning bets at the casino. Understanding this fundamental calculation is key to assessing potential returns on any wager placed.
For a more complex scenario, consider a combination bet linking three selections with odds of 1.50, 2.00, and 2.50. The combined odds would be 7.50 (1.50 x 2.00 x 2.50). A 10.00 EUR stake on this combination bet would yield a payout of 75.00 EUR if all selections are correct.
This calculation method applies across various bet types, including single bets and the individual legs of system bets. The payout is always the product of the stake and the final combined odds offered for that specific bet. It is important to note that a single incorrect selection in a combination bet results in the entire stake being lost.
System bet not divided by three combinations
A system bet, such as a '2 out of 3' selection, distributes the total stake across all possible combinations of the chosen selections. If three selections are made, each priced at odds of 2.00, and a 10.00 EUR stake is placed on a '2 out of 3' system, the stake is divided. This means 3.33 EUR is wagered on each of the three possible two-selection combinations.
In this '2 out of 3' system example, if only two of the three selections are correct, only one of the three initial combinations will win. For instance, if the winning combinations had odds of 4.00, the payout would be 13.33 EUR (3.33 EUR stake x 4.00 odds). This payout covers the stake for that specific winning combination.
However, if two selections lose, no payout is generated from the system bet. The total stake of 10.00 EUR is lost because none of the required two-selection combinations were successfully predicted. This structure highlights the inherent risk management within system bets, allowing for potential returns even with some incorrect picks.
Player bets within the 250 NBA markets
The basketball offering at Thunderpick includes a substantial number of markets for NBA games, with up to 250 available for a single match. This variety allows players to explore numerous betting angles beyond just the final outcome. These markets can encompass a wide range of statistics and events within the game.
Within these 250 NBA markets, players can find options such as handicaps and over/under totals, which typically carry margins between 3% and 5%. Moneyline bets, focusing on the outright winner, generally have slightly higher margins, ranging from 4% to 6%. These figures represent the casino's built-in advantage.
The extensive market depth for NBA games provides players with a rich betting landscape. This allows for detailed analysis and strategic wagering, accommodating preferences for specific player performances or game dynamics. The availability of such a wide array of betting options is a significant feature for basketball enthusiasts.
Which bet type suits a 10.00 EUR stake?
A 10.00 EUR stake can be placed on a variety of bet types, including single bets, combination bets, and system bets. For a single bet, the payout is simply the stake multiplied by the odds offered for that selection. For example, a 10.00 EUR stake at odds of 3.00 would return 30.00 EUR.
If a player opts for a combination bet, the 10.00 EUR stake is placed on the entire multi-leg wager. The payout is determined by multiplying the odds of all selections. A combination of three bets with odds 1.50, 2.00, and 2.50 would result in a 7.50 combined odd, yielding 75.00 EUR from a 10.00 EUR stake.
For system bets, the 10.00 EUR stake is divided across multiple combinations. In a '2 out of 3' system with three selections, each at 2.00 odds, 3.33 EUR is bet on each of the three possible pairings. If two selections win, one combination pays out, potentially returning 13.33 EUR from the initial 10.00 EUR stake.
What margin is in round bets?
The margin, representing the casino's built-in profit, varies across different bet types and sports. For Eishockey (Ice Hockey), the margin typically falls between 4% and 7% in the main markets, increasing to 7% to 10% for period bets. This means that for every 100 EUR wagered, the casino expects to retain between 4 EUR and 10 EUR over the long term.
Football bets also exhibit varying margins. The 1X2 market before kickoff generally has a margin of 4% to 7%, while live betting on football can see margins rise to 6% to 9%. For Cricket, the margin in the win market is between 5% and 9%, escalating to 8% to 12% for player-specific bets. These percentages are crucial for players to understand potential profitability.
Other sports like Basketball have margins of 3% to 5% for handicap and over/under bets, and 4% to 6% for moneyline bets. MMA fights show margins of 5% to 8% for outright wins and 8% to 12% for method of victory bets. Formula 1 driver duels have a 3% to 5% margin, while outright winner bets carry a significant 12% to 20% margin.